Couple Qs on the Raw

Phill

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Hi, ive looked around this forums and the main website and to the best of my knowledge i cant find a definitive answer.

Id like to order myself a Raw NS or Al (with my birthday next week it seems like a good excuse :D) but the battery is the main thing that keeps me from being convinced about them.

Ive done some research as ive said, both here and another couple of forums. So im under the impression that the batteries cannot be run completely flat and they cannot be overcharged - but the charger that is sold by Lummi is the muts nuts and there is going to be no problems from that front.

However i did read on another forum that one guy recommended not using the batteries for too many charges. He recommended 5 charges then replacing them because they can become dangerous if used too many times. Ive read nothing like that elsewhere but then ive read very little elsewhere about the 14250 cell.

Is the guy full of it, or is that an accurate evaluation of the usability of the battery? I dont know if such a figure exists, but assuming he is wrong how many times can they be recharged or is it just a case that over time they just hold less and less charge and safety isnt an issue if they are used correctly (ie not shorted etc).

Ive also read that Li-ion batteries tend to "die of old age". By which i mean you cant buy a few batteries and leave them in a cupboard as they will become unusable after a certain amount of time even if they are not being charged and discharged. Does this ring true in practice, or is the time in involved measured in years, by which point its not too much of a factor, or alternately is it just wrong?

Also, as another question, are there any overheating issues with these lights? For instance i know Fenix recommends you dont run their lights full power for a long time, so is the Raw able to take a full 100 lumen (im looking at getting the 100/20 output model) from the time the battery is inserted to it running down and needs recharging? In fact could you then swap that out with a spare charged battery and run that at full power none stop and so on? Clearly more hypothetical as id never realistically do that, but its a thought i had.

Thanks for taking the time to deal with what im sure are probably really noob questions :)
 
However i did read on another forum that one guy recommended not using the batteries for too many charges. He recommended 5 charges then replacing them because they can become dangerous if used too many times. Ive read nothing like that elsewhere but then ive read very little elsewhere about the 14250 cell.

Is the guy full of it, or is that an accurate evaluation of the usability of the battery?

Whoever made that statement has stock in the company that makes batteries.

It is complete bunk.

Ive also read that Li-ion batteries tend to "die of old age". By which i mean you cant buy a few batteries and leave them in a cupboard as they will become unusable after a certain amount of time even if they are not being charged and discharged. Does this ring true in practice, or is the time in involved measured in years, by which point its not too much of a factor, or alternately is it just wrong?

Yeah, they do have a shelf life, but I don't remember what it is, several years I think.


Also, as another question, are there any overheating issues with these lights? For instance i know Fenix recommends you dont run their lights full power for a long time, so is the Raw able to take a full 100 lumen (im looking at getting the 100/20 output model) from the time the battery is inserted to it running down and needs recharging? In fact could you then swap that out with a spare charged battery and run that at full power none stop and so on? Clearly more hypothetical as id never realistically do that, but its a thought i had.


I don't think you'd hurt a RAW NS running full power for the life of the battery, but it would get uncomfortably warm after about 8-10 minutes. I would NOT leave it tailstanding on high non-stop because I think that then it might get hot enough to damage the LED. Hand holding it helps pull heat out of the body.

Tim
 
Thanks a lot for the answers Tim, especially to the first question which was my biggest issue.
 

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