mag 6 d?

[strideredc]

I just got a 6d mag and want to turn it into a monster! I am after reasonable runtime but want mega bright, I don't have unlimited funds either. I have been looking on the forum but am getting totally confused!?! Any ideas, a few links in the right direction would be great.

Thanks

Matt

 

[mdocod]

well, any magmod over 10 watts will require that you replace the stock reflector and lens, plan on about $30-50 invested there.

as for batteries, the 6D is a good host, because you can run 6 NIMH D cells and get about 10AH of capacity, this lets you run a ROP high for about 2 hours and an ROP low for about 5 hours.

[edit in] you can get 10AH Powerizer/Tenergy brand D size NIMH cells for about $6 each plus shipping online, they aren't the best cells in the world, but for the money in your application (and trying to keep costs down) they will work perfectly.

total cost: ballpark of about $100. try to invest in a good charger also.

 

[fire-stick]

"Big D" bulb (#3853 ?)
6 D cell NI-MH
Cammed or (un-cammed) metal reflector
*EDIT* also a glass lens is a MUST

That'd be pretty sweet. The cells would cost a pretty penny and you'd have to get a charger, but that setup would be pretty bright for a long time.


light edge sells reflectors and various places (prob. even ebay) sells that bulb, (it's a factory made buld for another light)

Correct me if I'm wrong, (which I prob. am) but that setup would easily do ~500ish torch lumens.

 

[BigusLightus]

My first super duper 6D is:

Pelican 3854 lamp from lighthound.com
One UCL glass lens from lighthound.com
6 Powerizer D cell NiMH cells from Zbattery.com
One FM dual function reflector from http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=163470

Thats all there is to my first "Roar of Pelican" (ROP) build.

However, along the way I found all sorts of interesting side tracks! For example, in a 6D Mag you can fit 2 Magcharger battery sticks giving 12 Volts @ 2.5 Amps. That really opens up the options for lamps. The same battery stick will fit a 3D Mag. My 3D is driving a potted Carley 1499 and doing a very nice job of it. While the battery stick is rated at 6 Volts mine come off the charger @ 6.94 Volts. Last time I checked BatteryBob.com had the lowest price on the generic MagCharger style battery stick that I'm using. Action-Lights.com had the lowest price on the original Mag branded battery stick.

Hope that helps

 

[CLHC]

If I remember correctly, you can use two (2) of the MagCharger's rechargeable battery sticks and use the Welch~Allyn lamp (WA01185? or WA01160? WA01174?). But I forgot which of these lamps. I'm sure someone here recollects.

 

[fire-stick]

If I remember correctly, you can use two (2) of the MagCharger's rechargeable battery sticks and use the Welch~Allyn lamp (WA01185? or WA01160? WA01174?). But I forgot which of these lamps. I'm sure someone here recollects.

That sounds about right for the 1185. Cause that's the one (1185) that they use on the mag85, with 9AA's.

 

[FILIPPO]

hey, reading this thread I have had an idea (that may be a stupid one...)
what about using:
mag 6D host,
8 "c" nimh in mag 6D with mod tail cap or little extender,
bi-pin socket,
alluminium reflector,
boro lens,
WA 1164,

I remember that fivemega used this method to build 1500L mag 2D with special adapter and quad bored mag host.

is mine a stupid idea or not?

 

[mdocod]

is mine a stupid idea or not?

sounds good, might take a lot of work and money to make happen though.

I like trying to "fill" the D size space with as many watt-hours as possible when thinking up a mag-mod.. dropping down to a C size in a D host kinda negates a lot of real-estate that could be in the form of power for runtime or output. Whenever possible, I like mods that use D cells in a D case, or a configuration of smaller cells that can be fit 3-4 abreast in the tube, to maximize power available.


8 C size NIMHs would be about 48-58 watt/hours

as apposed to...
6 D size NIMHs would be about 72-86 watt/hours

in a tri-bored 6D host...(doubt it exists, lol... but if it did)
15 17670 li-ions would be about 83-89 watt/hours
28 AA size NIMHs would be about 67-90 watt/hours

(all calculated before losses, estimated, but good comparison)

of the bunch I like the 6 D cells the best because it involves the easiest drop-in solution for power, no complicated packs with tons of resistance points or complications. Less cells means less to manage, easier diagnostic when things go wrong. And there are a lot of bulbs out there that could make good use of ~7.2V.

 

[LuxLuthor]

That's the easiest, but you won't get a torch monster with 7.2V

I have no interest in carrying a walking stick, but if I did....I would sure want something that was a blazer....at least putting out 1500L, but I would go more for the 75-100W bulbs.

The 1164 that supposedly has 1500L needs 9.6V, but I don't think it ever had that kind of output. Maybe I'll try it with those new Titanium 1800mAh high amp output cells.

 

[strideredc]

well, any magmod over 10 watts will require that you replace the stock reflector and lens, plan on about $30-50 invested there.

as for batteries, the 6D is a good host, because you can run 6 NIMH D cells and get about 10AH of capacity, this lets you run a ROP high for about 2 hours and an ROP low for about 5 hours.

[edit in] you can get 10AH Powerizer/Tenergy brand D size NIMH cells for about $6 each plus shipping online, they aren't the best cells in the world, but for the money in your application (and trying to keep costs down) they will work perfectly.

total cost: ballpark of about $100. try to invest in a good charger also.

thanks for all your replys! i am going to go with the ROP and 6 nimh d cells
where can i get the bulb and what is the exact one i need. lighthound want $22 to post to the uk!:mecry: any other places???
thanks
matt

 

[BigusLightus]

Do a search for "Pelican 3854" using your favorite search engine. Its a two pack which includes both a High Output and a Low Output lamp. The spec says its a 6 Volt lamp but in this case you will overdrive it with 7.2 Volts.

 

[FILIPPO]

you can also contact cpf member FIVEMEGA that can sold you ROP bulbs, reflector, lens and other parts you need :twothumbs

 

[KrisP]

I'd recommend buying all the parts from Fivemega... I made my first ROP in my 6D a couple of weeks ago and actually ordered all the parts from various online stores. Most of the stores charged $23USD international postage even when buying the globes for $8. I paid nearly $100USD in postage

Now FM is selling all the parts together so i've ordered them all and it has cost $7USD postage for everything. (except batteries and host)

 

[FILIPPO]

I'd recommend buying all the parts from Fivemega... I made my first ROP in my 6D a couple of weeks ago and actually ordered all the parts from various online stores. Most of the stores charged $23USD international postage even when buying the globes for $8. I paid nearly $100USD in postage

Now FM is selling all the parts together so i've ordered them all and it has cost $7USD postage for everything. (except batteries and host)

+1:thumbsup:

 

[JimmyM]

I think were missing the Philips 5761. It'll run unregulated from 6 rested NiMH D-Cells. It's about 45 watts.
You need a KIU socket like any of the other Bi-pins.
I'm using something similar in a HA-III 6D. It's a 64275 bulb on a hotdriver with 6 10AH NiMH D cells.