kosPap
Flashlight Enthusiast
$180 is street price and not MSRP? If it's really street price, I'd hate to see what retail is.
225! in optics Planet and SWFA
$180 is street price and not MSRP? If it's really street price, I'd hate to see what retail is.
With assumed due respect, this thread is primarily about a new flashlight and not in regards to how this flashlight will stack up against its competition. Obviously how it compares to other lights will be of major interest to many.
With the diversity of the SF line and little known yet of the Leupold lights, can you be more specific, if you feel you must, in identifying which SF lights will be left in the dust and out of curiosity, how this will come about?
The M series is at least waterproof up to a depth of approximately 10 meters. Full N certification can be had at an additional cost.LEUPOLD lights are really waterproof – not just water resistant
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All Surefire 2x&3x123 aluminum lights having a single bulb or single LED are bested by these LEUPOLD lights. Here are just a few reasons why:
- LEUPOLD lights are really waterproof – not just water resistant
- LEUPOLD LED lights have select bin LEDs – no green tints here
- LEUPOLD lights use sapphire lenses – no easily scratched cookware Pyrex
In regards to a light being "really waterproof", that is a slippery slope given the nature of a waterproof claim and how it has been eroded years back by the likes of Ralph Nadar and such.
Now on the statement of Bin sorted LED's sounds like a marketing ploy to illicit comments and thoughts as you have expressed. Do we know what LED Leupold is using? The tint lottery is still alive and well as far as I know. SF brought us a number of lights in the past which had less than desirable tints but these lights used premium bin selection based on flux and not tint and many of these lights most likely used LED's of a different design than present generation lights. I won't claim that Leupold can't establish a uniformity in tint yet to be experienced across a population of lights but I would like to know more on how they bring this about before I accept a "True White TM" claim as more than just a marketing ploy.
Thank you for your reply McGizmo.
Leupold is pretty clear in detailing what they mean by waterproof for these new Leupold lights – it's four atmospheres (a water depth of 132 feet or 40 meters).
Leupold further defines "True White" with a specific temperature, 5500 degrees Kelvin. Given the right equipment, one could actually measure how close Leupold comes to achieving this color temperature, but this is not practical except perhaps by a very few CPF members. My contention is that CPF members will not be disappointed with the tint of any of these Leupold LED lights.
If by chance you have some relationship with Leupold, shame on you for your "in the dirt shot".
I do not now nor have I ever had any relationship with Leupold.
How about you and Surefire?
Thank you for your reply McGizmo.
Leupold is pretty clear in detailing what they mean by waterproof for these new Leupold lights – it's four atmospheres (a water depth of 132 feet or 40 meters).
Leupold further defines "True White" with a specific temperature, 5500 degrees Kelvin. Given the right equipment, one could actually measure how close Leupold comes to achieving this color temperature, but this is not practical except perhaps by a very few CPF members. My contention is that CPF members will not be disappointed with the tint of any of these Leupold LED lights.
Leupold is pretty clear in detailing what they mean by waterproof for these new Leupold lights – it's four atmospheres (a water depth of 132 feet or 40 meters).