Has anyone seen the movie "Loose Change" ?

If you have not seen the movie Loose Change, I suggest you do.

Basically, it is a movie exposing some facts about 911
Much like Micheal Moores movie, but I think the facts and suggestions are even more blatant.

I am not saying all this is true, that is for you to deside,
but I do think you would at least watch the movie, it will at the very least, get you to thinking about things.

You can watch it on video.google.com
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386&q=loose+change

~John

Personally, my opinion is that watching "Loose Change" is a waste of 80 min you will not get back. "Loose Change" presents wrong facts in a bad fashion. But if you must, go ahead and watch.

But please, please, read this commentary on the movie afterwards. Makes you think even more. Especially why you wasted 80 min.

You can pick out certain facts to make a movie twist any direction you want,
this is no different.

But its not a waste of time.
It makes you think, thats the whole point.
Many "facts" in the movie are hearsay, or not realivant, or just plane chance.

But some arent, and some may be more meaningful than you think.

Overal, I dont think the government did it, (actually, it wouldnt be the gov. anyway, it would be the even deeper rooted group of individuals that runs the gov.) MIB type stuff

But, if one day, we were to find out they did do it,
I would not be very surprised at all, look how much the gov. has gainned from all this.

There is also a movie called "Screw Loose Change"
which is good to watch after you see Loose Change, it basically tried to discredit the film.

~John

Any undertaking this large would require collusion of a LOT of people. And people just aren't good at keeping secrets, with the exception of Henry and his b42 unlock code.

I was discussing that last night.
It would be very hard, even for the government to pull off something this big, and it not get out.

BUT, they have done things almost this big in the past, and no one found out till years later when things are declassified.
Though, this isnt the sorta thing that gets declassified.

As I said, dont get me wrong, dont think of me as one of those nutty conspiracy guys,
I dont think the gov. did it, but I am leaning toward they let it happen.
There are some VERY fishy things that happend that week.
Things that indicate that they at least knew it was going to happen.

~John

jtice, can you name some of those 'fishy things' you mentioned? I'm pretty sure that they are only fishy due to hindsight, that is are things that go on all the time, and are thoroughly unfishy, and only turn fishy in the mind of people when something extraordinarily happens (such as, a goup of nutty Arabs flying planes into buildings).

They may not have done it, but they MAY have known about it, and not done anything.

Remember Pearl Harbor!

Fishy:

Boeing Stocks were "tagged" by 11 times more ppl than usual, a couple days before 911

Same with the Insurance company that inssured the towers.

Towers had a new policy set a few months before, that covered attacks, and planes hitting the building.

A major base was conducting drills for planes hitting buildings that day.

90% of the jet fighters asigned to protect the US were flown hundreds of miles away for a trainning mission.

Many gov. buildings sent ppl home that day,
or told them not to come into work.


One thing that bothers me alot is,
they only found a couple pieces of the plane at the Pentigone,
and one of them, isnt even a part off that type of plane !

Did you see the hole that sent through about 6 walls? way into the center?
They found nothing at the end of that hole! wtf !
You would think the engine would be sitting at the end of that hole, or something.

They say the plane burned up, well, TI doesnt burn at those low temps.
Well, lets say it got that hot, fine,
then, how did they identify some 180+ bodies? when they say they never found bodies !

Also, the "hole" in the side of the Pentigone,
I dont think it was made by a Boeing,
there are no marks for the wings, or engines.
I talked about this before Loose Change was even made.

Almost nothing adds up,
Its a HUGE coverup, whether the gov was directly involved or not.

~John

Another thing,

IF the plane was going over 400 mph like they say, when it hit the Pentigon,
theres NO WAY a human was flying it.
It hit only the building, didnt even touch the ground.
You can thread a neddle with a Boeing at 500 mph.

~John

jtice, I beg you, read the link I provided. PLEASE!

Pretty much anything you find fishy is explained, with references (as opposed to the "Loose Change", which omits references), in there. Another good source is here.

Any fact can be debunked.
Any "truth" can be backed up with facts, you just have to pick the right ones.
Thats exactly what that film and others do.

ALOT of what was in Loose Change AI think is BS.
But there are some things that really dont addup.

The point of watching these films, is to get you thinking.
Weigh the facts yourself,

I have never seen a documentary that was 100% up front,
all use the facts they want to.

Thats why you should watch and read things on both sides of the fence.

~John

"The point of watching these films, is to get you thinking.
Weigh the facts yourself, "

I watched "Loose Change", and weighed the facts. "Loose Change" is major league BS. It contains very little correct facts, and a lot of fantasizing.

Also, look at the following link regarding the hole in the pentagon.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

It argues that a 757 in fact DID hit the pentagon.

90% of it is, yes. I agree.

But, 90% of the "truth" I have heard about 911 are also BS.

Just keeping an open mind, and watching/reading all I can.

brightSwede,

EXCELLENT link !!!
I have been wanting more info on the wreckage found there !

~John