HD/bluray is obsolete and is being replaced by 4K UHD standard

[StarHalo]

I'm pretty much addicted to Amazon...so bad to the point of buying toilet paper!! LOL not really, but don't put it past me yet.

60% off Amazon Elements Baby Wipes, which would indicate other Amazon Elements items will also be discounted.

Also, you might be interested in Amazon Dash..

 

[orbital]

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4K packaging finalized?

...the new Black

 

[NoNotAgain]

IMO the packaging sucks. They should have had the actors name over his or her head.

As for 4K video, my Phantom 3 Pro has 4K. Most of the time I end up cropping to 1080P or there about as 99% of the people don't have the ability to view 4K.

 

[StarHalo]

There's a 4K sampler set out there right now that includes a USB key with the 4K content; it all sounds a little silly at this point. Even if you had a collection of some form of physical 4K media, what would you with it? Display it library-style in a giant oak entertainment center circa 1985 VHS tapes?

 

[orbital]

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Samsung 4K Disk Player UBS-K8500

 

[PhotonWrangler]

Wait, has the 4K disc standard been ratified yet, or is that a block of wood with a logo on it?

 

[orbital]

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http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/20...nfirmed-4k-at-high-frame-rates-10-bit-colour/

 

[StarHalo]

Total silliness, no one is buying yet another hope-it's-not-scratched disc player when every device in the house can already provide 4K content. And just to further the point; the new Sony Experia cellphone has a 4K display, 800+ dpi. Probably not a lot of folks signing up to connect a theater shelf component to their cellphone..

 

[PhotonWrangler]

Thanks for the link, Orbital. As StarHalo mentioned, the licensees of the Ultra HD Blu-Ray format are in a race against time. More consumers are getting their video from streaming sources these days, and the close-out DVD/Blu-Ray bins at some of the retailers keep getting bigger as people decide to abandon physical media.

Me, I'm a Luddite who prefers to have that physical platter, although I'm in no rush to buy yet another media player device.

 

[idleprocess]

Thanks for the link, Orbital. As StarHalo mentioned, the licensees of the Ultra HD Blu-Ray format are in a race against time. More consumers are getting their video from streaming sources these days, and the close-out DVD/Blu-Ray bins at some of the retailers keep getting bigger as people decide to abandon physical media.

Me, I'm a Luddite who prefers to have that physical platter, although I'm in no rush to buy yet another media player device.

The bandwidth of a DVD, Blu-Ray, or whatever media a shipping truck can deliver is astoundingly high compared to internet connectivity. It also typically just works as opposed to the coercion and platform wars that content providers like to play with streaming media.

 

[orbital]

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Never diss a book or record collection (aka physical media)

 

[idleprocess]

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Never diss a book or record collection (aka physical media)

There's a lot to be said for reading a physical book vs on a screen - be it LCD or e-paper. When I was going to school a few years ago, whenever I had a choice between an e-textbook and the printed variety I almost immediately learned to choose the latter: it's easier to read a printed book (this seems to relate to the ease of adapting a printed surface for best visibility under varying light conditions), easier to retain key facts or ideas, you can miraculously page to a specific reference in seconds, and there's no encryption/DRM to go badly wrong on you at the worst time.

I understand why the LP, 45, cassette, CD have largely vanished from the marketplace - music is something we tend to enjoy on the go now as opposed to in listening rooms. You can store large quantities of high-quality audio on a cellphone; immensely more on a small computer with a typical hard drive. If you want to stream it like the cool kids, the bandwidth requirements aren't overly burdensome. Listening to the source physical media provides no benefit for most use cases. And for those that do, it's still available - albeit probably not from Best Buy provided you can find one.

But why is the market in such a rush to ditch it for video, which has immensely more data than audio? I get the convenience of watching Game of Thrones the day an episode is released or as a substitute for what used to be a trip to Blockbuster. I even get ripping physical media to some open format like .AVI. But I don't quite understand why the market insists on streaming as the sole substitute for local copies - physical or digital - of media you really want to watch on your schedule in glorious full quality. So many more moving parts - bandwidth, legalities, recurring payments, technical issues throughout - vs popping a disc (or queuing something from the NAS). On the latter local method - never has diskspace, processing power, and utility computing been cheaper or easier than it is now.

 

[lunas]

cant they use a bluray disk for 4k video?

Yes that is how his 4k video which is really a measure of resolution not a storeage medium will be delivered the player he will need will read dvd and bluray and up convert 720p and 1080p and 2k to 4k

Mind you to even give 2 flying craps about this you need a 4k tv and a 4k player and a bluray disc with 4k video on it.

The biggest issue with this thread is that people keep confusing media with resolution dvd and bluray are not the same thing as 720p, 1080p, 2k or 4k. 4k will come out on blu-ray so your old blu-ray disc are not going to be obsolete and if you think your whole 200 disc collection will come out remastered in 4k your an idiot. The only things that will be re-released in 4k are the big hits and things that get put into anniversary collections. Additionally if it was never shot in 4k you will not magically be able to get it in 4k.

 

[StarHalo]

- Most people won't be interested in a 4K TV, they'll be interested in a Dolby Vision TV that also happens to feature 4K.

- You're on your own with the book/record subtopics, as they don't parallel video entertainment at all and people have widely varying opinions about them (and the record is rising in popularity sharply.)

- Both Amazon and Netflix allow downloading for viewing offline; you download your movie or TV program onto your device and can then watch it anytime with no internet connectivity whatsoever.

- Any program you purchase on any streaming service can be viewed on any other device as long as it has that app and is logged into your account: You buy an episode of Breaking Bad off Netflix and download it to your iPhone, then throw your iPhone into a volcano. Then you go to a friend's house and open Netflix on their smart TV and sign into your account - there's your copy of Breaking Bad right where you left it. Nothing remotely similar to this exists with physical media.

 

[lunas]

this is the problem with Fry's, Costco and all these other stores - they rarely configure the units correctly, rarely have true 4K source and usually split the signal between multiple units, degrading PQ. it does look better but not sure if it's reaching its potential.

i want to see the PQ playing off a red-ray disk, uncompressed. 200GB source file for a red-ray UHD movie. We are getting into fractions of a terabyte.

We will not be going back to red... red is dvd... if we go anywhere in the visual spectrum it will be further towards uv so black - ray... or purple ray. The company red-ray is a Chinese company attempting to keep HD DVD alive that is what their proprietary red format is...


Here is some info
480p 640x480
720p or 1280x720
1080p or 1920x1080
1440p or 2k or 2560x1440
2160p or 4k or 4096 x 2160

 

[orbital]

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The reason I want to see 4K media entering marketplace is for Blu-Ray disk prices to go way down,, not about to buy all the whole 4K line of stuff.

I like the spontaneity of popping in a movie, no downloading, no logging on, and the assumption everything is going to work perfectly w/ no bottlenecks in any way.
Lots of moving parts I'm not interested in xxxg with.


StarHalo, I see your point, I do,,, just not my cup of tea

 

[Chauncey Gardiner]

At least five times the beautiful Mrs. Gardiner and I sat down to watch a Netflix streamed movie, ........... only to have it stop midway through. Yeah, I like the reliability of a disk.

~ Chance

 

[markr6]

+1 on a disc. I was watching a movie last night in my basement on the big screen with projector. Usually I go down there and watch a streaming video:

1. turn everything on
2. wait at least 2 minutes for all the crap "connecting, downloaded content, press OK" etc...
3. Open app then try to find something (horribly awkward without a keyboard)
4. Play, then watch "determining connection speed"
5. Then some more loading junk before it actually starts playing

But last night I just threw in a disc and hit play after the blu-ray player started up (10 seconds)

Of course streaming is nice since you have hundreds/thousands of options that takes up no space and gets updated frequently. But that can be bad too. Watching a nail-biting series only to find Netflix got rid of it half way through??? AHH!!!!

 

[lunas]

Another thing to keep in mind is data caps and the sheer size of a 4k movie. A 1080p digital copy of mad max fury road is 2.71 GB the adverage size of a 4k movie will be 9-11GB the theatres dont compress it as much and the adverage for them is 225GB...

 

[StarHalo]

You guys have some seriously awful internet, that's a shame, you're missing out..