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Poppy- I'm debating a 9ah, just for the continuous runtime aspect. It completely throws off tool balance, etc. but as a prep, it might be nice. Devil's advocate says it's expensive per aH, however.. 4's and 6's are the sweet spot.

I find that on a grinder, a heavy battery really helps and stops kickback and gives you a bit better control
 

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Poppy- I'm debating a 9ah, just for the continuous runtime aspect. It completely throws off tool balance, etc. but as a prep, it might be nice. Devil's advocate says it's expensive per aH, however.. 4's and 6's are the sweet spot.
I've been thinking about getting another 40V battery for my greenworks blower/ string trimmer combo. I can't quite finish the front and back yards on a single charge. I imagine 40V to 120 inverters work more efficiently than 18V to 120V inverters do. So if I get another 40V battery, then I may get an inverter that will match it.

OK, so along the lines of continuous run time, I found that greenworks makes a power bank inverter that will accept 4 x 40V batteries.

Except for the price, it is a very enticing idea. Certainly the batteries can be used for other green works 40V tools when they are not used to power the inverter.
 

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Poppy- Ryobi makes similar for bothb18v and 40v batteries. Price prohibitive in my opinion, you're getting into 2000 watt inverter gas generator cost. May work for some folks though. I purchased a 100ah Lithium Poly trolling motor battery over the summer, and have a couple smaller inverters I can use with it. So far, so good. You'll have to let us know how that 3rd party clip on inverter works when you get it, I put one in my cart lol. Backup is always good...
 

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Yea, I've got 9 pieces of Pecron equipment and will order the E3600LFP as soon as they release it....and maybe their new, yet to be released E300LFP with UPS function to continue converting all my small UPS's to LFP instead of SLA. I do like their stuff!
 

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Yea, I've got 9 pieces of Pecron equipment and will order the E3600LFP as soon as they release it....
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wowzer! that's alot of Pecron

BVH, if you also purchased some solar panels in '23, you could deduct a good percentage of everything on your '23 Tax filings
(if you owe taxes)
You have to have this equipment for home use only.
Again, you have to owe taxes.

The Alternative Energy Tax deduction is like 28% of what you spent..
 

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wowzer! that's alot of Pecron

BVH, if you also purchased some solar panels in '23, you could deduct a good percentage of everything on your '23 Tax filings
(if you owe taxes)
You have to have this equipment for home use only.
Again, you have to owe taxes.

The Alternative Energy Tax deduction is like 28% of what you spent..
Wow, I did not know that. Good info
 
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If I were to do it again, I'd likely get a dual fuel inverter generator.
During Hurricane, Super storm Sandy, gasoline was difficult to find. When it was found, there may be limits, and there were certainly long lines.

In another thread, someone mentioned that LP gas was plentiful, and there were no lines.

According to Champion, regarding their 2000 watt dual fuel inverter:
When the 1.05-gallon tank of gasoline is full, the 79cc Champion engine produces 2000 starting watts and 1700 running watts and will run for up to 11.5 hours at 25% load. When using a 20-pound propane tank, it produces 2000 starting watts and 1530 running watts and will run for up to 34 hours at 25% load.
Note: (that's only 400 watts load)

For the $100 difference between the cost of a gas only vs a duel fuel genset I think it is worth it to have the flexibility to be able to run off of my BBQ spare tank, and to be able to obtain and use propane when gasoline is not available.

OTOH, I'm probably over-thinking this, because with a fuel sipping 2000 watt inverter genset
10 gallons of fuel will last a long time.
 

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Poppy- Ryobi makes similar for bothb18v and 40v batteries. Price prohibitive in my opinion, you're getting into 2000 watt inverter gas generator cost. May work for some folks though. I purchased a 100ah Lithium Poly trolling motor battery over the summer, and have a couple smaller inverters I can use with it. So far, so good. You'll have to let us know how that 3rd party clip on inverter works when you get it, I put one in my cart lol. Backup is always good...
Wow! I didn't know that ryobi makes a similar unit, but IMO they are unjustifiably pricey.

You'll have to let us know how that 3rd party clip on inverter works when you get it,
Yesterday, I snapped in a 4ah battery, and plugged in the TV. It worked. I let it run for about 25 minutes, just to see that it worked. I didn't give it a run time test.

It will be quicker to plug the internet router into it than to dig out the powered over the air antennae and plug that in. So, I'll use the two inverters. One for the TV and one for the router.

If the outage is long enough to kill the batteries it will be time to fire up the generator.
 

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There's a saying Buy once, Cry once.

I guess I am not ready to release 700 tears yet.
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It's really a runtime factor,,
once the gee-wizz wears off of using a power tool battery to run your kitchen blender, one realizes it's runtime you want.
The power tool batteries are good to do DC~DC:: like a DC led bulb or small DC fan,, low watt AC stuff.

There's a large energy loss going from AC to DC then DC to AC to power stuff,
that's why man invented solar panels to charge battery banks.

Obviously, solar panels are DC electricity in either 12 or 24V flavor

add; if you have an all-in-one battery bank or large LFP & inverter, you can use that to specifically power something bigger,
then you can have one extra thing for your gas generator to power,, if that makes sense.
= hybrid setup
 
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It's really a runtime factor,,
once the gee-wizz wears off of using a power tool battery to run your kitchen blender, one realizes it's runtime you want.
The power tool batteries are good to do DC~DC:: like a DC led bulb or small DC fan,, low watt AC stuff.

There's a large energy loss going from AC to DC then DC to AC to power stuff,
that's why man invented solar panels to charge battery banks.

Obviously, solar panels are DC electricity in either 12 or 24V flavor

add; if you have an all-in-one battery bank or large LFP & inverter, you can use that to specifically power something bigger,
then you can have one extra thing for your gas generator to power,, if that makes sense.
= hybrid setup
If I may add that a lot of sun gleaners will go with a 48 Volt system in order to handle higher loads, among other advantages.

And while it is useful to keep in mind 'energy loss' inefficiencies, that should not hold someone back from utilizing a setup that converts from AC to DC current and back again.

Solar panels are considered to be often less than 20% efficient. Expect to get maybe 75% of their rated wattage. Then there will typically be low voltage line loss to the solar charge controller (if PWM maybe 75%, MPPT could be 95% efficient) then to the batteries (which might have a 95% cycle efficiency or less). Every connection/breaker/fuse introduces resistance. Inverters can be about 95% efficient at their optimum load.
 

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I have a similar adapter for making dewalt batteries work on my Ryobi 1 gear. 👍👍👍
Where can you get adapters so other brands work on Ryobi tools? I think some are 3D printed.

Does Ryobi have an inverter for their 40v batteries? An inverter that would work on both would be great. Another idea is an adapter that fits on a Ryobi battery and presents two connectors that will allow using ANY inverter.
 

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For the $100 difference between the cost of a gas only vs a duel fuel genset I think it is worth it to have the flexibility to be able to run off of my BBQ spare tank, and to be able to obtain and use propane when gasoline is not available.
I have a dual fuel gen I bought for Y2k. However, if you do not remove some parts from the carb (like the needle valve, IIRC) using natural gas will erode them. I presume its the same today. And its super not efficient for natural gas, but maybe current designs do better? So natural gas is "the final option" if gasoline runs out & I'm willing to pay for the carb to be repaired later.
 

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Where can you get adapters so other brands work on Ryobi tools? I think some are 3D printed.

Does Ryobi have an inverter for their 40v batteries? An inverter that would work on both would be great. Another idea is an adapter that fits on a Ryobi battery and presents two connectors that will allow using ANY inverter.
I got mine from Amazon, which allows for returns if there are issues. Not sure what brand in particular you're looking for, but there are a bunch that adapt to the Ryobi tools. I have a DeWalt-to-Ryobi adapter and it works just fine. You are NOT supposed to use the adapter to charge a different brand battery on a Ryobi charger, fwiw. Your mileage may vary. 😉
 

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If I may add that a lot of sun gleaners will go with a 48 Volt system in order to handle higher loads, among other advantages.
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These are new 48V LiTime LFP
3000Wh energy, would be the same as a 240Ah 12V LFP


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In 2022 I bought a 1500W 48V Samlex PST inverter at such a price I simply could not pass on ~ $376 that's like half price!
It's on the shelf for when I go 48V (likely two 24V LFP in series for me)
very substantial piece of equipment
 
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Check out this deal, of course not Honda quality, but for $274, no tax and free shipping? Hard to go wrong. I ordered one

 

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Check out this deal, of course not Honda quality, but for $274, no tax and free shipping? Hard to go wrong. I ordered one

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If they fixed something like a simple carburetor issue,, could be a great deal.
 

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super A-iPower deal here also:::


With 25% coupon, it comes out to $488 plus tax.
doesn't have a CO alarm, that's a good thing

edit; update
 
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