Feedback/impressions on the PhD-M6 custom battery pack

Please creat solid offering of boards only. Considering a board option when the packs are gone may have us buyers waiting until all the parts are gone. Given that most of the bulbs can run great in a m@g, that the four regulated levels make for great versatility, and with excellent run-time with 3s AW 2.3A IMR 25500, or 4A IMR 26650.
Please give me an option, short of requiring I buy an M6 pack for an M6 I don't have (have you seen Surefire prices in Canada?!?) and gutting it for the regulator. Please. The M6 is like $500 in Canada, where available, and most US retailers won't ship to Can addresses. But I've got a few sweet mag hotwires.

Thank-you for your consideration,
Linger

**Yes there have been other regulated drivers but this is the only one presently available: Jimmy's is out likely for the rest of the year, orders to Alan many months off. Yours is the only option for multiple bulbs.

Linger said:

Please creat solid offering of boards only. Considering a board option when the packs are gone may have us buyers waiting until all the parts are gone. Given that most of the bulbs can run great in a m@g, that the four regulated levels make for great versatility, and with excellent run-time with 3s AW 2.3A IMR 25500, or 4A IMR 26650.
Please give me an option, short of requiring I buy an M6 pack for an M6 I don't have (have you seen Surefire prices in Canada?!?) and gutting it for the regulator. Please. The M6 is like $500 in Canada, where available, and most US retailers won't ship to Can addresses. But I've got a few sweet mag hotwires.

Thank-you for your consideration,
Linger

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Linger,

You already have options. You don't have to buy an M6 to have a PhD driver. Both Alan B and JimmyM offer PhD products, and their variants fit in the much less costly Mag platform. Alan's solution is more of a module with great adjust-ability and programming options. Jimmy's solution is the board by itself, and also offers lots of programming options. Jimmy is working in new variants including much more powerful versions, and if I recall correctly, a new Multi-level version.

Will

wquiles said:

Linger,

You already have options. You don't have to buy an M6 to have a PhD driver. Both Alan B and JimmyM offer PhD products, and their variants fit in the much less costly Mag platform. Alan's solution is more of a module with great adjust-ability and programming options. Jimmy's solution is the board by itself, and also offers lots of programming options. Jimmy is working in new variants including much more powerful versions, and if I recall correctly, a new Multi-level version.

Will

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Linger, as an owner of all three products, Will is correct. JimmyM's and AlanB's products are superb. Alan's is close to a drop-in solution (but suffers from his available time to work on them), and Jimmy's requires more custom setup, but works extremely well. The PhD-M6 is a vastly superior replacement for the defunct & troubled AWR/JS M6-R project. There are tons of M6 users out there who only need to know this PhD-M6 is available, and Will/Eric will have more than their hands full. I think a couple of strategically placed posts on various forums would begin an onslaught of orders. I would be surprised if SF has not already heard about it. (Hint hint.....apply for patent now).

i think the M6 with PhD-M6 pack running MN61 would make an excellent light for Police officers.

That is a large market.

LuxLuthor said:

There are tons of M6 users out there who only need to know this PhD-M6 is available, and Will/Eric will have more than their hands full. I think a couple of strategically placed posts on various forums would begin an onslaught of orders.

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oldways said:

i think the M6 with PhD-M6 pack running MN61 would make an excellent light for Police officers.

That is a large market.

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Thank you guys - much appreciated. Selling outside CPF was always part of the original plan, but we had to make sure we served the demand in "our" forum first

oldways said:

i think the M6 with PhD-M6 pack running MN61 would make an excellent light for Police officers.

That is a large market.

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I certainly agree. The problem is largely two fold. The original being the cost of the host and secondarily the form factor is unfamiliar and not TERRIBLY beltable . Most LEO where I am are used to a 3D mag that can be used as an improvised if needed. Its not that the M6 wouldn't stand up to that... its just... not as long... and certainly isn't as weighty.

Ill let you know what the guys think when my stuff all rolls in.:devil:

Stephen

EDIT: 2010-08-27 10:44 am PST My M6 and Bulbs showed up from the US, so did the order from Lumens Factory from Hong Kong. Im now waiting for the PHD-M6... Any thoughts Will?

Troop#26 said:

EDIT: 2010-08-27 10:44 am PST My M6 and Bulbs showed up from the US, so did the order from Lumens Factory from Hong Kong. Im now waiting for the PHD-M6... Any thoughts Will?

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Unfortunately no further thoughts that I can offer. International with tracking is about twice as much ($25-30), so if we could turn back time perhaps that would have been a better alternative than just regular priority international. I have not heard either from many of my International customers either, so perhaps everything outside the USA is just really slow :mecry:

EDIT: I will email you the number on the top of the custom's form. I don't know if this will be of any value, but it is certainly better than nothing.

In talking to the guy down at my contract postal office here, he always tells me that priority and first class international are actually on the same time table. Not sure if it's true or not, but it seems possible. In my experience, international orders via first class can take anywhere from 9 to 20 days on average, with the occasional package taking longer, usually if it takes much longer than that, then it has been "eaten" by the system.

Hopefully it will be there soon!

Eric

Re: Sales Thread for the Black Edition PhD-M6 custom battery pack

Just received my PhD-M6 and have been trying it out.

This is one of the all-time great CPF-born projects, IMO, and the result is SUPERB. Like some others, I was keen to try it out with the MN21 HOLA, which I have only used on rare occasions due to the $$$$$ of running it on primaries.

Well... all you guys who (like me) have had MN21s sitting around unused for that same reason - look no further. The PhD-M6 is the answer! In fact, because of the regulation, it gives a BETTER perfomance than you get with the stock 6x primary holder. So it's a no-brainer: $$$$$ with primaries vs. $0.00 with the PhD-M6.

And it can be used with all the popular bulbs I used in my M6 shootout - and more. There have been other and far better evaluations of this pack, and doubtless there will be a great deal more to be said about what an amazingly innovative and useful item it is. The manufacturing screams quality and durability - it is a winner there too.

I'm delighted with the way this has turned out, and as soon as I work out what custom settings I would like, I'll be putting in an order for a 2nd one - a PhD-M6-BK-Stealth, lol.

Well done, Will and Eric!

For the record, I am not a shill.

What is the min i can set the voltage to?
im thinking for led use
3.5 4.2 8 and ??

(Sorry if its already been answered here somewhere)

UberLumens said:

What is the min i can set the voltage to?
im thinking for led use
3.5 4.2 8 and ??

(Sorry if its already been answered here somewhere)

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Hi there

The PhD-M6 pack does not work with LED's, as it is specifically designed to drive an incandescent filament. Although I seriously doubt you could damage the pack by connecting it to LED(s), the LED's are very likely to be damaged/destroyed.

If you want a good LED driver, I would recommend you check www.taskled.com

Will

Re: Sales Thread for the Black Edition PhD-M6 custom battery pack

DM51 said:

Just received my PhD-M6 and have been trying it out.

This is one of the all-time great CPF-born projects, IMO, and the result is SUPERB. Like some others, I was keen to try it out with the MN21 HOLA, which I have only used on rare occasions due to the $$$$$ of running it on primaries.

Well... all you guys who (like me) have had MN21s sitting around unused for that same reason - look no further. The PhD-M6 is the answer! In fact, because of the regulation, it gives a BETTER perfomance than you get with the stock 6x primary holder. So it's a no-brainer: $$$$$ with primaries vs. $0.00 with the PhD-M6.

And it can be used with all the popular bulbs I used in my M6 shootout - and more. There have been other and far better evaluations of this pack, and doubtless there will be a great deal more to be said about what an amazingly innovative and useful item it is. The manufacturing screams quality and durability - it is a winner there too.

I'm delighted with the way this has turned out, and as soon as I work out what custom settings I would like, I'll be putting in an order for a 2nd one - a PhD-M6-BK-Stealth, lol.

Well done, Will and Eric!

For the record, I am not a shill.

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Thank you for your kind words David - it certainly has been a great learning experience and I am happy that the packs are working well and being well received

and thanks for confirming receipt. I was beginning to worry about all of the packs I sent outside the USA. Since yours was the very first group that I shipped, I would hope that the rest of the international packs start to arrive soon

ITS HERE ITS HERE
I poped into work today and it was waiting for me! Its still day-time but this thing is amazing. I threw in the MN21 just to wow everyone at work... that thing is bright and NO DIMMING AND free lumens!

The workmanship is amazing.:naughty:It fits every bit as good as the stock holder and actually I had a slight rattle with the MB20 when locked out, that I dont get with the PHD-M6. I had some wonders about this being something I would use for duty. That question has been answered in a significantly way... this thing is GOOD TO GO!

I cant wait for it to get dark. But until it does Ill have to play with it like this!


Let there be light (PHD-M6 driving MN21)

PHD-M6, FM 3X17670, Stock BM20

BM 20 Front 3/4

FM 3X17670 Front 3/4

FM 3X17670 Rear 3/4

PHD-M6 Front straight on

PHD-M6 Front straight on

PHD-M6 Top (Focus on the brains)

PHD-M6 Top

Rear 3/4

Surefire MN20, MN21, MN61; Lumens Factory HO-M6, IMR-M3T, IMR-M6 (Front 3/4)

Surefire MN20, MN21, MN61; Lumens Factory HO-M6 (Front 3/4)

Surefire MN61; Lumens Factory HO-M6, IMR-M3T, IMR-M6 (Front 3/4)

Surefire MN20, MN21, MN61; Lumens Factory HO-M6, IMR-M3T, IMR-M6 (Top)

Lumens Factory IMR-M6, IMR-M3T, HO-M6 (Boxes)

Surefire MN20, MN21, MN61; Lumens Factory HO-M6, IMR-M3T, IMR-M6 (all safe and sound)

Remember I plan on doing a larger review / shoot out on Oh, the even Surefire "M"s.... I have had a few difficulties as documented in the first post (more to the bottom) so I have to wait a few weeks to do the whole thing. However I cant wait to play with this tonight!

Thanks Will, Eric and Everyone else who:help:

Stephen

Awesome - thanks for letting me know it finally got there :thumbsup:

Once you play with it tonight, please do let me know how it worked with the various bulbs.

Will

Just to prove that we all make mistakes - I posted in the wrong thread!! I've now moved the post here, where it belongs:

DM51 said:

Just received my PhD-M6 and have been trying it out.

This is one of the all-time great CPF-born projects, IMO, and the result is SUPERB. Like some others, I was keen to try it out with the MN21 HOLA, which I have only used on rare occasions due to the $$$$$ of running it on primaries.

Well... all you guys who (like me) have had MN21s sitting around unused for that same reason - look no further. The PhD-M6 is the answer! In fact, because of the regulation, it gives a BETTER perfomance than you get with the stock 6x primary holder. So it's a no-brainer: $$$$$ with primaries vs. $0.00 with the PhD-M6.

And it can be used with all the popular bulbs I used in my M6 shootout - and more. There have been other and far better evaluations of this pack, and doubtless there will be a great deal more to be said about what an amazingly innovative and useful item it is. The manufacturing screams quality and durability - it is a winner there too.

I'm delighted with the way this has turned out, and as soon as I work out what custom settings I would like, I'll be putting in an order for a 2nd one - a PhD-M6-BK-Stealth, lol.

Well done, Will and Eric!

For the record, I am not a shill.

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Just a couple of quick updates. The mn21 at 6.8v is really awesome, nice and white with a nice fat beam.:huh:

I also just ran a mn61 for 30 min continuous at 9.2v on a brand new set of aw's until I hit moon mode. Voltages at moonmode were in the mid to high 3.6s.

Steve in SoCal said:

Just a couple of quick updates. The mn21 at 6.8v is really awesome, nice and white with a nice fat beam.:huh:

I also just ran a mn61 for 30 min continuous at 9.2v on a brand new set of aw's until I hit moon mode. Voltages at moonmode were in the mid to high 3.6s.

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Those numbers are pretty much what you should be getting, so I would say your pack is performing very well

Order placed for my PhD-M6 pack

The only question is: which of the 12 M6s will be the lucky recipient?

Tempest UK said:

Order placed for my PhD-M6 pack

The only question is: which of the 12 M6s will be the lucky recipient?

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Wow - 12 of them :devil:

Do you have them all with different bulbs/batteries?

hron61 said:

hey will,
since the phd-m6 packs are gonna be a smash hit, any chance you might do one for the surefire m4? thats one platform that could surely use one of these for sure. i have one and it will be getting bored for 18650's very soon to help it out some but one of these packs would bring it out of the closet and into the light (pun intended).

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In the M6 Eric and I used the space already in use by the OEM battery holder to create a new custom pack that houses the cells and the driver. I am sure it is doable, but I think with the M4 the challenge is space. Where in the M4 would where you thinking that one could put the regulator/driver?