A closer look at the Surefire U2 Ultra

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About a year ago, I bought an U2 Ultra from CPF MP.
It turned out to be the new version.

I quickly turned it on, saw the color of the light and put it on the shelf... where it became a shelf queen, until a week ago I decided to give it a second chance.

First thing that is really great on this light, is the UI with that selector ring for the brightness setting. It is a true one-hand, no hassle system.

Second good property is the enormous range of the brightness settings. You have a 1:50 brightness ratio from the lowest to the highest setting (2 to 100 Lumens).

Third, is the great throw of this light. On paper, it may be quite identical to the P60L drop in (100 vs. 80 Lumens) but the difference is in the throwing capabilities. You won't notice this until you take the light out! Play with this light in your home and you'll probably be disappointed, take it out and you'll be impressed :caution:
Almost forgot to tell, that Surefire did quite the impossible here: combine this great throw with more than enough flood!! This is infinitely better than on the L1 Lumamax for example (the TIR-system provides nearly no spill at all!)
Beam quality is overall flawless. No dark spots or whatsoever.

The fourth good property for me, is the standard forward-clicky tailcap. With most Surefires, this will be an extra, here it is provided as a standard feature.

And, a fifth very good reason to actually use this one a lot, is the fact it can run from 2X Li-ion rechargeables without any problems! You won't loose your low modes, because of direct driving related problems.

Now, it's time to take a look at the current draws and run times on 2X Li-ion:

2 Lumens: 8.6mA
5 Lumens: 12.5mA
10 Lumens: 18.7mA
25 Lumens: 33.2mA
50 Lumens: 88mA
100 Lumens: 460mA(!)

Runtimes are pretty high, calculated on basis of 600mAh:

2 Lumens: 69 hours(!)
5 Lumens: 48 hours
10 Lumens: 32 hours
25 Lumens: 18 hours
50 Lumens: > 6 hours
100 Lumens: > 1 hour

Notice from this list, it's best to avoid the highest setting when you want decent run times. However, not only the current draw has a sharp increase here, the light output has too. When optimum throw is required in the field, just USE the highest setting and make sure you bring extra batteries. You won't be disappointed...

So far, so good! It is undoubtedly the most versatile light in my collection, not only when I take the Surefires only! I simply do not own any other flashlight that has such an easy UI and such a huge ratio of brightness-settings.

You may ask yourself: WHY has it been a shelf queen for a year then? Well, it's because of the color of the light :sick2:
I'm an incan guy, and I do love that warm, nice tint of incans over all others.
This U2 however, has sooo many good properties, and just one that's (to me) less favorable, that I simply have to overcome this, and USE it ;)


Timmo.
 
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So far, so good! It is undoubtedly the most versatile light in my collection, not only when I take the Surefires only! I simply do not own any other flashlight that has such an easy UI and such a huge ratio of brightness-settings

I agree I use it as a utility light around in and outside the house it also sometimes rides shotgun with me in my vehicle. If you like the U2 you should try the Jetbeam RRT-2.
 
I have a slightly similar story. I bought a new version U2 and put it in my safe for a long time. I used it very rarely and only to look inside the safe when it was dark in the room. Then I found another U2 on CPFM and picked that one up as a "user". It was the "old" version. I started to use that thing all the time and within just a few days it became one of my favorite lights. I decided that I didn't technically need two U2s so I quickly did some comparisons of the two lights. The new one had a tighter and nicer beam shape, while the old one had slightly more flood. The old one has a very neutral, if not slightly warm beam compared to the new ones slightly purple tint. The old one has some wear, including the window, while the new one was dead mint condition. The new one has a longer run-time I heard, but I've never gone through a set of batteries myself so that's not as much of an issue. The old one has some slight artifacts in the beam while the new one is "perfect". The new one fit 18650 cells, as does the old one. On paper I suppose the new version was (is) a better light but I have other lights with perfect beams and great throw. That old-version U2 is my near-perfect user light

I sold the new one and kept the old one. A couple reasons were the tint and the fact that its already "broken-in" so I don't need to worry about getting that first ding. That tends to be a concern of mine while a light (even a user light) is in that new/mint condition. After that first ding I concern myself very little with incidental scratches and dings.

About a year or so ago I met someone with a U2 and they thought it was just the best thing since sliced bread. I thought, 'yeah whatever' its great and all but kind of big and expensive. Even so, that conversion spurred my purchase of the safe queen U2A. Now I know. It is a great light and one of my favorites.
 
I still don't know what emitter it has, as I am in fact an incan guy, and can't judge the make of a LED by the looks of it. It has four metal tabs, a black plastic ring, then the LED comes in, looks a little yellowish and square.
The only thing I know, is that it is the newer version with the long run time.

Yes, I put two IMR-cells, with 4.17V in it, nothing happened (I even checked the current draw, this was not excessive, no, as I had expected, it was LOWER than on 2X CR123A primaries!!)
The light performs just as well with CR123A as with Li-ion cells. No visible difference in brightness at all. I think the driver is a good one, as may be expected from Surefire :)
If it survives IMR-cells (these can deliver 8C maximum current!) then it is absolutely safe to use the black protected AW Li-ion cells. They both fit, I just tried this. My version doesn't have enough space to put in an 18650!

My colleague was less happy with these IMR cells... we put them into his MTE MC-E light, we switched it on and.... WHOOWW!! WHAT a LIGHT!!
for a short time... we switched it to the next level, hmmm, all levels are extremely bright...
We tried an 18650 (this one belongs to this light) after this event: no light anymore :shakehead
I think we blew the driver. The LED survived!

Timmo.
 
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I always look forward to getting to use my U2 Ultra. I don't use it very often simply because my E2DL fits my daily application better. Still, the U2 is hands down the most useful light I own. If I could only have one light, this would be it. Although in all fairness, it's six lights and that's the beauty of it.

Just as 325addict posted, the beam is a thing of beauty. Put it into real-world use and you'll find that it has plenty of throw and excellent spill.

As stated in other threads, it would have been great if surefire had updated this light rather than come up with new models that can't really replace it.
 
One thing with the U2 is that there seems to be differences even among the same "model" (U2 or U2A). Both the new one I got rid of and mine take protected 18650s, even though the new one was the U2A and most don't allow 18650s. Also, my old one appears to have the same exact brightness levels when comparing one 18650 or 2 CR123s, which seems strange to me because people have said that some levels will be the same brightness with one 18650. Mine increases brightness with each higher level, just like its supposed to. I guess I just got lucky.
 
The U2 ... love on first sight. It is my number one light since I got one back then when it made its first appearance. No other comes close. For a plethora of reasons like those in the OP.
:)
bernie
 
FWIW, Mev got 150 lumens OTF on a U2A with 18650 and 189 lumens w 2 x 123 primaries. I always wanted to try a U2 out but didn't cause I don't care for Lux5 emitters. Finally got a U2A and added a Leef body because I like single cell operation (although the stock body fits 17670 unprotected). Level 1 at night is plenty to navigate around the house without ruining night vision. I would love to try an XP-G R5 version out. Great lite IMO and the used prices have come way down too.
 
I've been using my U2 all week! I agree with all the above comments - mine is the early model and it fits 18650's and works perfectly with them.

But you have all forgotten about the clip! In my opinion the U2 uses the best pocket clip that Surefire have made, it is sturdy and fits perfectly on any pocket. I wish it was used on all Surefire 2 cell sized lights.
 
I love my old LuxV U2, will probably love the neutral white MC-E one Milky is building even more. Both run on 18650s

Best UI ever (L1 etc. a close second)

Sverre
 
But you have all forgotten about the clip! In my opinion the U2 uses the best pocket clip that Surefire have made, it is sturdy and fits perfectly on any pocket. I wish it was used on all Surefire 2 cell sized lights.
I completely agree - the LX2 and A2L would be awesome with the bezel-down wire clip (IMHO)

Al :)
 
I completely agree - the LX2 and A2L would be awesome with the bezel-down wire clip (IMHO)

A few years ago I used to very much disagree. For one reason or another I didn't get on with the U2/K2 clips.

Then the A2L and LX2 came along and reminded me how much I preferred bezel-down carry, which drew me back to the U2 and K2.

Now I wish that it was an option on all SureFires, or at least all 2 SF123A models.

Regards,
Tempest
 
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