What do you guys think about a 3500 Spotlight?

[naked_snake]

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ProductDetail?prodID=26475

First off, I'm totally new here, I don't know anything about flashlights, infact this is my first post. Hi everybody!

I've mostly been just lurking since I found this forum, but then I came across this impressive looking (as far as I can tell) spotlight: I guess it's called the "G&P 35W HID Spotlight II". G&P just may be an airshit brand for all I know.

However it says it produces 3500 lumens, using a very large external 11.1v rechargeable Li-ion battery pack. It uses a 35W lamp and burns for 85 minutes. The site I found it at is selling them at $423.

I've never come across something like this before, and I was just curious what you guys would think. Would you buy something like this?

Thanks.

 

[Richie086]

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ProductDetail?prodID=26475

First off, I'm totally new here, I don't know anything about flashlights, infact this is my first post. Hi everybody!

I've mostly been just lurking since I found this forum, but then I came across this impressive looking (as far as I can tell) spotlight: I guess it's called the "G&P 35W HID Spotlight II". G&P just may be an airshit brand for all I know.

Hi Naked Snake and welcome to the forum :welcome:

Well, I think you'll get tired of lugging around all those components really quick. To actually walk around with it, both your hands would be required, just to name one thing. For that kind of money, I think there are far better choices around. A great HID to start with is the Power On Board 35w HID, which will put out 3,200 lumens+ with the 4300 bulb modification and for less than $100.00 US funds.

There are also other brand 35W "Mag light Style" HID flashlights selling for about 1/2 the price of that G&P. I'd do more research here in the HID section and ask more questions prior to purchasing that spotlight.

Whatever you decide to purchase, please post your decision with photos if possible.

 

[HKJ]

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ProductDetail?prodID=26475

First off, I'm totally new here, I don't know anything about flashlights, infact this is my first post. Hi everybody!

I've mostly been just lurking since I found this forum, but then I came across this impressive looking (as far as I can tell) spotlight: I guess it's called the "G&P 35W HID Spotlight II". G&P just may be an airshit brand for all I know.

However it says it produces 3500 lumens, using a very large external 11.1v rechargeable Li-ion battery pack. It uses a 35W lamp and burns for 85 minutes. The site I found it at is selling them at $423.

I've never come across something like this before, and I was just curious what you guys would think. Would you buy something like this?

HID lights are fun, but the one you have found is not the most portable solution.

Something like the L35 is a much better light, or get one of the generic HID's.

When using HID you must know that they are slow to turn on, it can take up to a minute before they are up to full power. The light output from a 3500 HID is in the same range as the head lights from a car.

 

[Patriot]

I agree with the other posters. Almost any frequently discussed light on these forums will be better than the G&P. It's just not a practical arrangement. Additionally, if you do some searches on G&P in the upper right search window you'll see that they've had some serious quality control issues in the past.


:welcome:

 

[Gunner12]

From what I remember that light has many problems. Good idea, just not implemented well.

Just as a curiosity question, what lights do you use now?

:welcome:

 

[petersmith6]

so whats so dificult about having the power pack on you belt? shurly this would make it a lot lighter in the hand. just wish the power pack had more amphour.

 

[Richie086]

so whats so dificult about having the power pack on you belt?

Hi Peter,

Not difficult at all if you don't mind having to do that, and as long as the user is aware it now connects the light to the body. It's also been my experience with any of the HID flashlights in my signature, if used for long periods of time or until the battery is exhausted, the battery can get pretty darn hot. Not something I'd want in contact with my body.

Naked Snake mentions he doesn't know anything about flashlights (HID flashlights??), so I'll go out on a limb here and say that I think we'd all like him to have a great first time buying experiece with whatever he ends up with. So I'll stand on my original comment there are much better options for him to purchase than this one.

 

[Patriot]

From what I remember that light has many problems.

This does happen to be a new design from the original G&P but what exactly has been redesigned and what shares the old designs or parts is unclear. The original had an on board battery and ballast and I'm not sure where the ballast is located on this model.

The three main problems the original G&P had were overheating, ballast failure, and poor handle design which caused the light body to crack and handle to fall off. Secondary weaknesses were that it had a hyper blue 6500+K beam and water could enter the light through some poorly designed points such as the handle mount.

petersmith6
so whats so dificult about having the power pack on you belt? shurly this would make it a lot lighter in the hand. just wish the power pack had more amphour.

In fact it's not lighter that many similarly spec'd lights. The tout it's size and make the point that it weights 1.4kg for just the light body itself.

There's probably nothing that's "difficult" about having the power pack on the belt but more a question of what's ultimately more convenient from the user's standpoint. If the consumer has a choice between a high powered electric drill, one with a battery back worn on a belt the other with an integrated pack in the handle while still being lighter at the same time, how many do you suppose were wear the belt option? In other words, why go with the separate arrangement if it's not necessary from a design standpoint?

Few would argue that having a light with all components assembled into one small space would be inferior to a tethered system. In fact most of the time it's just the opposite. Compact handheld's dominate the market because it's what's preferred out of practicality. The new L35 will be equal to or superior to the G&P in every way, it doesn't require a separate tethered power source, and it's far lighter.

Given my point of view I believe it's secondary to the issues of G&P's HID history. If the light proves to be unreliable then it doesn't much matter what any of the other specifications are.

 

[petersmith6]

untill some little deviant stole it i had a rat shak 750,000 candle power searchlight with a 20ah nimh power pack.i used a UK milatry webing belt system with sholder straps and found the 8lb more than acceptable to carry.with a 100 watt bulb i got just under 2 hours and was looking for a HID system. belt pack/ ruck sacks alow greater and loading buy transferingthe weight strait to the hips.i found large self contained lights cumbersome after a two mile walk down a rail line. the other advantage was i could just use diferent head units for different tasks,ie 100watt for long range,55watt medium, and 20watt if it was an all nighter.take a 12volt fluoresent light a home made helmit mounted light and i had all bases coverd.my main tip for a seperat head unit is to make a good land yard or get a retracting landyard.

 

[Richie086]

untill some little deviant stole it i had a rat shak 750,000 candle power searchlight with a 20ah nimh power pack

Wow...what sounds like an amazing setup. I'd love to see some photos of that.