GarageBoy
Flashlight Enthusiast
I hope this isn't out of line:
seems like a rat race to hype the product that's starting to fall apart fast
seems like a rat race to hype the product that's starting to fall apart fast
Peter has said that he is getting a 50% failure rate in his initial (hand built by him with selected components) production.
Seems like a very high failure rate to me. he said he would auction off the first 100 lights produced ....which pass qc..
The whole thing seems a little OFF to me.
Yaesumofo
I guess I'm a little confused. The ebay listings say, "Only 50 of these are made. All are being sold by auction." Peter's first post in this thread implies that 100 were made but some were scrapped due to QC issues. So.... does that mean that half of those produced got scrapped because they were substandard?!?!? :thinking::shrug::candle: Why do the auctions say there are only 50 of these made? What am I missing here???
...I cannot agree with selling beta lights without any disclaimer, am disatisfied with poor and sometimes misleading communications but respect the choice of the company to sell the light in any way that they think best...
I guess I'm a little confused. The ebay listings say, "Only 50 of these are made. All are being sold by auction."Peter's first post in this thread implies that 100 were made but some were scrapped due to QC issues. So.... does that mean that half of those produced got scrapped because they were substandard?!?!? :thinking::shrug::candle: Why do the auctions say there are only 50 of these made? What am I missing here???
to everyone bidding up the price right now, way before the auction ends... learn how to snipe on eBay you n00bs!
p.s. im bidding for sure!
I am a newbie in the grand history of CPF but I would hope that Peter recognises his contribution to CPF and in turn the contribution CPF has made to his lights, to him and his finances.
At the very least I would expect that CPF users are given the respect of openess and transparancy with regard to what Peter knows about the future of these lights rather than the cryptic clues given thus far.
I cannot agree with selling beta lights without any disclaimer, am disatisfied with poor and sometimes misleading communications but respect the choice of the company to sell the light in any way that they think best.
To us CPFers this is just a light, take it or leave it, to Arc this is the future, or not, of their business. A company clearly needs to take care of it's reputation and when they are careless with such an important aspect of business you have to ask how much futher the carelessness extends, in my opinion.
I respectfully ask for some openess about the future plans for production, support and warranty on these lights, otherwise in this position uncertainty I will assume the worst.
I am out, and will never own another Arc light unless Peter and Arc can go above and beyond to address these concerns and the numerous concerns expressed by others.
+1I hope this isn't out of line:
seems like a rat race to hype the product that's starting to fall apart fast
Howdy Hodsta! :wave:
You know better than most about the goofball nutcase Krazy Kenster. :tinfoil: That`s me! So please hang in there with me my friend. Come on, this isn`t mine, yours or any of us sad sack CPF flashaholics life changing type of event which leaves us no choice but to stand up and demand to be heard because well :thinking:...:shrug: ... INJUSTICE??? :thinking: Get`em!
Uhhh Request Not mine or any Arc light owners RIGHT? to be..... :thinking: .... OFFENDED??? :duh2: What CPF member actually NEEDS one of these lights??? :candle: NEVERMIND! Think of the sign at a ice house/gas station "No Shirt, No Shoes, NO SERVICE". Cool, so :thinking:... if you don`t like it go somewhere else, I guess??? :shrug: Duhhh! I have rules at my house the same as all of us do at our homes or business and if anyone don`t like it go somewhere else please and BE OFFENDED PLEASE! :nana: HEHE! J/K
Cheers, I'll have #42:nana:Oh, if owning one of these lights is life or death for someone send me a PM with the serial # of the light you NEED to survive and I will make it yours sad sack! Oh.....
Peter, in the pics the ano color of the head appears different than that of the body. Is that the case for all of them, or are there some units with the same color head and body?