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I'm completely on the sidelines on this issue, and frankly 'couldn't care less' personally; however I stumbled across these stats which got even my attention and were / are very interesting to say the least, and I'm sure many who do care about this subject will find them interesting:

 

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I'm completely on the sidelines on this issue, and frankly 'couldn't care less' personally; however I stumbled across these stats which got even my attention and were / are very interesting to say the least, and I'm sure many who do care about this subject will find them interesting:

Thank you for the VERY interesting article!

I just might be laughing for the next couple of hours, after reading it!
 

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Thank you for the VERY interesting article!

I just might be laughing for the next couple of hours, after reading it!
Even being 'neutral' on the matter, I guess I do find one thing fairly humorous myself: These are not a test study group randomly given the vehicles to evaluate or the like, these are apparently people who bought them believing they knew what they were signing up for and getting, but were then very disappointed to find that they (apparently) didn't. It's interesting that could happen in these times when 'information' abounds.
 
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"Owners of cutting edge, tech-filled BEVs and PHEVs are experiencing problems that are of a severity level high enough for them to take their new vehicle into the dealership at a rate three times higher than that of gas-powered vehicle owners," J.D. Power's senior director of auto benchmarking, Frank Hanley, said in a news release."

 

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Half of the EV owners thought they could replace their gas cars, but they could not fully replace gas cars, hence the disappointment. other half bought Ev as an additional vehicle, and are happy, they use gas cars on long trips, and EV while running errands lockaly.
 

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...or you could just get a good ICE vehicle and only need ONE car which can fulfill both duties. Just think of the waste and environmental cost, and owner costs of having two separate cars when one would suffice.
 

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Half of the EV owners thought they could replace their gas cars, but they could not fully replace gas cars, hence the disappointment. other half bought Ev as an additional vehicle, and are happy, they use gas cars on long trips, and EV while running errands lockaly.
If you have a family, and one car isn't cutting it, it'd be less expensive over the long haul to get a fuel-sipper compact gas-powered car for all the rest of the family's needs. Quick trip into town for a few odds & ends. Daily commuter vehicle for going to work and back. That sort of thing.
 

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If you have a family, and one car isn't cutting it, it'd be less expensive over the long haul to get a fuel-sipper compact gas-powered car for all the rest of the family's needs. Quick trip into town for a few odds & ends. Daily commuter vehicle for going to work and back. That sort of thing.
Compact "fuel-sippers" are too dangerous - you are much more likely to be killed or seriously injured in a wreck. saving a few $ ain't worth the potential loss of a family member, the pain and suffering not to mention the medical bills.
 

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Compact "fuel-sippers" are too dangerous - you are much more likely to be killed or seriously injured in a wreck. saving a few $ ain't worth the potential loss of a family member, the pain and suffering not to mention the medical bills.
I'm sorry, but not all of the fuel-sippers are death machines.
My first car was a 1998 Ford Escort sedan with the base engine in it.
Air-bags, seatbelts (I was wearing mine). Survived with little more than a sprained wrist when the air-bag exploded in my face thanks to an idiot who thought the proper way to use a turn-signal was to flick it on, while immediately switching lanes without looking over his shoulder. After the accident, he got a bit annoyed that he had to stand around and wait for the police to arrive.
 

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"Fuel sippers" have to pass all the crash tests just like big cars. There's no evidence that they are less safe.
Of course there is, tons of it, in every body shop. Ever seen a camry t boned by a lifted wrangler? I have, I would not be caught dead in a small car, seeing how much more damage they suffer.
 
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"Fuel sippers" have to pass all the crash tests just like big cars. There's no evidence that they are less safe.

There's no evidence that they are less safe . . . . . . until they collide with a vehicle weighing 2,000 pounds more, because, well, physics.



That's why there are weight classes in combat sports.


Of course there is, tons of it, in every body shop. Ever seen a camry t boned by a lifted wrangler? I have, I would not be caught dead in a small car, seeing how much more damage they suffer.

As I (non-expertly) understand, crash tests are for impacts with a stationary object or vehicle of similar size/weight. How it crashes also matters (see offset frontal impact); some do well to preserve the passenger space, others crumple and crush the occupant.

Even the heaviest and largest gas guzzling SUV will have severe injuries and fatalities if hit by a vehicle large and heavy enough.
 

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Yes physics. Something big hits something small equals damage. Is that why cyclists are not allowed on the roads? Oh hang on....
 

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Of course there is, tons of it, in every body shop. Ever seen a camry t boned by a lifted wrangler? I have, I would not be caught dead in a small car, seeing how much more damage they suffer.
It's why they invented crumple zones.
My best friend of over 30 years died nearly 20 years ago when his Dodge Neon collided head on with a much bigger and heavier Jeep Commander SUV. Neon totaled. He wasn't. No broken bones, but moving around hurt like hell for several days according to him.
 

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Of course there is, tons of it, in every body shop. Ever seen a camry t boned by a lifted wrangler? I have, I would not be caught dead in a small car, seeing how much more damage they suffer.
I should probably explain. I've been to the USA. Everything is big because you lucky people have lots of room. I'm british and I come from somewhere that is very small. Roads are small and small cars are necessary. "Lifted Wranglers" don't exist. Speed limits are low and I have never seen anything T boned. I have however seem lots of single car RTAs caused by stupidity and drugs or alcohol. Only one of these is legal (when mixed with cars) but they are all undesirable.,
 

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It's why they invented crumple zones.
My best friend of over 30 years died nearly 20 years ago when his Dodge Neon collided head on with a much bigger and heavier Jeep Commander SUV. Neon totaled. He wasn't. No broken bones, but moving around hurt like hell for several days according to him.

It is not so much when those cars hit something straight head on, the way crumple zones were designed, it is when something hits them, in a way it was not designed, it becomes issues. No crumple zone, or side airbags will help when a bumper of a 6000lb pick up or an suv is right at the level of your door glass.
Car salesman want you to see ratings, but I see these cars in our shop. those ratings are worthless.
Of course not every accident is a deadly one, but when you take a camry and t bone it even at 40mph by an suv or a pick up that is 3 feet taller......or imagine that car get bumped by something 2x the weight on a highway at 60mph, it will be flipping and spinning, and if extremely unlucky, get thrown on the opposite side of the road to be moved by oncoming traffic. to be honest that could happen to any car, but the heavier your car is, more chances it will be flying vs the heavier car that hit you.
Everyone is free to choose any car they want, big, small, electric, diesel.... etc, but based on what I see in our shop, some cars should never be on US roads today. i'd never recommend them to anyone, or get them for anyone in my family.
 
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